Do they teach this at the academy?
Hmmm...where have we seen this before :-)
This guy had to post bond after being in jail....I guess the judges over there have a set on them.
Your thoughts?
August 9, 2006
Ft. Pierce police chief arrested
PALM BEACH POST ADVERTISEMENT
FORT PIERCE, Fla. — Police Chief Eugene Savage was arrested on three felony charges this afternoon relating to a bank check that he signed and deposited in November, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Savage was indicted this morning on charges of grand theft, forgery of a bank check and uttering a forged bill - all third-degree felonies punishable by five years in prison, according to the State Attorney's Office.
He turned himself into the county jail at about 2:30 p.m. and bonded out by 3 p.m.
A $5,800 check was issued to Savage and his ex-wife, Gwendolyn Boyd, in November, according to assistant state attorney Lev Evans.
Savage signed both of their names and deposited the check into a local bank, Evans said.
Boyd, who is police chief in North Miami Beach, complained to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in January.
Evans stressed that the charges were not related to Savage's job with the police department or the city of Fort Pierce.
Savage and Boyd had divorced in January 2005.
This guy had to post bond after being in jail....I guess the judges over there have a set on them.
Your thoughts?
August 9, 2006
Ft. Pierce police chief arrested
PALM BEACH POST ADVERTISEMENT
FORT PIERCE, Fla. — Police Chief Eugene Savage was arrested on three felony charges this afternoon relating to a bank check that he signed and deposited in November, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Savage was indicted this morning on charges of grand theft, forgery of a bank check and uttering a forged bill - all third-degree felonies punishable by five years in prison, according to the State Attorney's Office.
He turned himself into the county jail at about 2:30 p.m. and bonded out by 3 p.m.
A $5,800 check was issued to Savage and his ex-wife, Gwendolyn Boyd, in November, according to assistant state attorney Lev Evans.
Savage signed both of their names and deposited the check into a local bank, Evans said.
Boyd, who is police chief in North Miami Beach, complained to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in January.
Evans stressed that the charges were not related to Savage's job with the police department or the city of Fort Pierce.
Savage and Boyd had divorced in January 2005.
posted by thetruthasiknowit at 8/09/2006 08:38:00 PM
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I sure hope not. And I hope it is not becoming a new fad. For petes sake, our society does not need to see any more crooked cops. Let's hope that all law enforcement take a good look around them and report those who seem to be dirting the profession, push the issue with their bosses and lets clean up this mess. I would love to be able to say that I have total faith in our law enforcement again.
I do wonder how this one came about.
Taken from the news article:
"Evans stressed that the charges were not related to Savage's job with the police department or the city of Fort Pierce."
He was a chief when he broke the law, I don't understand the pupose of the comment. Makes you think the paper left something out.
Hey Truth, look at the paper today. They nailed the notary right along with the forger. Theft by quit claim is going to jail.
Mayor Stacy, it looks like maybe you were lied to again by the Circus. The Honorable John Tanner is sending out subpoenas for a criminal trial, not a civil trial.
Don't listen to him, he lies.
The Circus is being tried for taking what was not his.
That's a great question, anyone know?
FIRE HIM
We have been asking for that very thing for months. I hear the comp time money (the money he gets for sitting on his ass at a Town meeting and letting his following disrupt everyone including the Mayor) is about out. Maybe NOW the TM will act?
Thanks geterdone for your insight. I dislike reading a story that ends with a line that doesn't seem to fit. Once he comingled her money with his money, it's hard to say if it had anything to do with his job. Basically he was a chief when he did the deed, he is on duty 24/7, and it certainly was not something a chief of police should do....Oh well, we'll watch this one play out too.
By the way geterdone, do you know when poor paul remarried and where?
And is Price now going to apologize for the four letter words he used today at the meeting. MelBeach needs Commissioners who can control their tempers, at least thru a meeting, and not grown men who have to walk out and attempt to cool down because another person has a different opinion. Do you think the Mayor will ever be able to control a meeting?
Maybe it's time to set a fine for anyone disrupting the meeting. Start with $25.00 and double it with each occasion. The taxes could be lowered and the town could make budget easily with all the new found money.....LOL
truthteller said " I might not post much but sure like to follow up on the news."
SOMETIMES THE NEWS HITS HERE LONG BEFORE IT'S PRINTED IN OUR LOCAL PAPER.
I HAVE BEEN AMAZED THAT A POLICE CHIEF IN BREVARD WAS UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION FOR MONTHS AND NOT A WORD WAS PRINTED.
"I can't remember when a police chief has ever been indicted in this county and I have been here a long time."
WELL HANG ON TO YOUR HATS, SPORTSFANS, WITNESSES ALL AROUND ARE GETTING SUBPOENAS FOR THE TRIAL.
Gerterdone, Sad sue must have been a sight to be laughed at. Could you just see her running into PP's office waving those blog posts around like the crazy loon that she is. She needs a hobby and I don't recommend politics. She really should just stay at home so every one will not have to deal with her crazy self.
Hello Truthteller,
here's some info for you, some 40 invitations went out this week cordially inviting wittnesses to join Mr Tanner in prosecuting David Syrkus. I've heard Davie boy is going around telling people that this will convert from Criminal to Civil. OMG! LOL what a dufus! This is what he is saying, and actually thinks people believe him. You should see him walking through Walmart looking for people to talk to about his woes. You won't read anything close to the truth over on the other blog. Glad your here.
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Hey, I'm here. I've been hearing all kinds of STUFF that davie is trying in hopes of getting his job back. This guy has no shame. I'm waiting to see where this load registers on his BS meter. Now this should be good! Stay tuned for more in the next few days.
Does it seem like this year has gone by very fast? It's going on a year since Davie boy pissed off the wrong person and here we are a year later and he will be on trial very shortly. I hope he pisses off the judge and or the jury. That would be a hoot!
Well geterdone, you certainly said a mouth full. I do believe that the little town of MB has a long way to go before the citizens can claim a city government that the other towns aren't laughing their asses off at. Nothing against the citizens so don't anyone get on your high horse and start blasting away at me. I happen to know that there is a bit of a controversy going on about someones degree or lack there of. It's also funny how the political games are starting over there in light of the upcoming elections. Does the phrase, "don't say anything until after the election," sound familiar to anyone? Too bad these grown men can't seem to play fair. Hey guys I have an idea, why don't you all stop acting like your in elementary school, stop cheating the public with your phony paper mill degrees and start acting like real men. Half of you don't even belong in politics and if it weren't for the idiots that voted you in because they were to damned lazy to do their research into your backrounds and just casted a blind vote your way because someone said, "oh he's a great guy" or what ever the heck their excuse is for wasting that vote, you wouldn't even be in office. I'm going to have to say, geterdone, MB is, unfortunatly in for another scandle pretty soon. Oh and David, stop telling people your going to get your job back when you know damned well that NO ONE is negotiating with you. The idiots who believe you really shouldn't be allowed to work for MB they should be wondering the isles at Walmart along with you looking for someone to tell their story to. Tell your story walking. Liar.
Hello Acedetective, welcome to the blog! May I start out by saying that your full of crap about that last paragraph you wrote? What? NO? Well, I'll say it anyway. What freaking law are you looking at? Why don't you turn on your TV and watch the ads by the idots running for office in the state of Florida. Do you believe everything they say? Dah, are you living in some kind of fantasy world? The air waves are full of lying politicians looking to slander and discredit the other guy. Dont' come on here with your induendos or in my opinion "threats" against one of our bloggers about it being against the law to "lie" about a candidate. Whatever! Your talking about a local election in MB! Common!!!!!!!!!! Most of them have lied to get thier jobs. What's your point? Ok, that's all I have to say, anyone else?
I see you are back Golfbabe...lol
I have been away and believe me, there's no place like home.
So, the upcoming election is the talk again and you think that a candidate would possibly lie or fib to get elected? Do you think that is worse than a crook for a police chief? I am hearing that MelBeach has another employee with a BS degree from Hamilton University and that this employee was hired by Davie. Anyone want to guess who it is? ( I am going to wait on my anouncement until I see the paperwork myself)
I am told that MelBeach Town Manager Jim Bursick has known for months and apparently kept it quiet. What's with these people? Is there no honor left? What happens to the minds of those taking oaths of office?
I still think municipal hiring leaves a lot to be desired and we should change our methods. I got it, all new employee apps should be posted with the meetings agenda, for all to see......Bet you wouldn't see many Hamilton degrees there......lol
Here we just went thru one hurricane and it looks like another one is brewing.
Welcome home Dorothy, I mean DickTracey. LOL.
I'm not to sure a lying Police Chief is any worse or better than a lying politician. Their pretty much the same. I think what bothers me the most, and I know I've said it before, is that there are so many qualified men and women who actually worked for that degree who should have that job. It also bothers me that someone can just pay for a papermill degree and walk into a job that pays what a real degree would pay without the work involved. I am still paying for the one I have which cost a hell of a lot more than the 1200.00 it cost to just go out and buy one and for what? To go out and compete against someone with a fraudulent degree for the same job?
When Davie Boy went to MB with his fake BS degree and beat out the candidates with real degrees that was pretty bad. However, to make matters worse, not only did the hiring folk not check to see if indeed he really had a degree they didn't even do a proper backround check on him. There were things, and we all saw it right there in black and white, that should have raised a red flag. But nope, not those guys, they didn't even look.
Did they learn from that? No they did not. I think that when a Police Chief position opens up, there should be a panel of citizens put together by way of picking their name out of a hat, that's right a hat. And those citizens are the ones, for a meager fee of course, to do the selecting of their next police chief. And then the properly trained officials should do a backround check to make sure their on the up and up. This would reduce the "good 'ol boy mentality" normaly used to choose these men and women for such an important job. I feel bad for the MB citizens. They definatley may want to just suck it up and ask Steve Walters to come back and fix the things others who came after him messed up.
DickTracey, what do you think of the rumor, if you want to call it that, that Syrkus is saying he's going to be back at work? Is he talking about the PD or Walmart, where he seems to hang out at now?
geterdone said " Can't see why a man would risk everything for less than $3000."
HAVE TO AGREE WITH GETERDONE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER. If a person knows that the degree they are "buying" is not accredited in their state, what is the purpose?
The only thing I can see is a BS in BS....lol
Golf, as far as Davie going back to work in MelBeach, I think that is a crock. Bursick has been very slow to get him off the employee list, but with what is now being tossed about in Brevard and elsewhere as to the second degree from Hamilton being discovered there, I have to believe something will happen soon. Not sure what. It is beyond my comprehension why a TM would not let the Commission know about this. Maybe they will look into the TM's degree next, if he has one. Has anyone looked?
As for Davie "hanging out" at Walmart, a lot of stores resort to "Circus tactics" to get people in.......Not sure if that is the case here......lol
melbeacher, you need to get your stories straight. Hamilton University of Wyoming (where Davie got his degree) has never been anything but a diploma mill. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I have also heard that the interim chief is doing a great job. Then I hear he polled his men over the hiring process and it appears his men are the ones that decide who gets hired. I must say that I have always thought that it was the chief's job to make those decisions. I have also heard that the officers are willing to walk off if the interim chief brings on DD as a reserve. I say that's BS and no way to manage a department. Since when does an officer tell a chief what to do? I say someone has no management skills.
I also say that if an officer is putting that much pressure on an interim chief that is trying to get the office in order, then "Let him walk", MelBeach could use a better officer. With retirement around the corner for one and raises on the budget for all, I say if they want to go, "Don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out". Besides, I think it unproper and illegal for officer to just walk. This whole story is a crock. Now I ask you, why would the TM start something like this?
Melbeacher, the elephant poop thing was pretty funny. I do have to ask you if you were addressing me with this; "Start by telling your boy, whom you claim you do not know, but we know diffrent, to cut his crap," If so, who are you referring to. Furthermore when you referred to a "witch hunt" you eluded to one individual causing this because this individual didn't get his way. Very simplistic thinking there melbeacher. This whole thing with Syrkus was because he is a bad person who did a lot of bad things to a lot of good people. There were plenty of folks out there just waiting for the opportunity to let this guy have it and I must say, a lot of those folks sure did show a lot of patience. Good things come to those who wait! I think it's time for you to get past the fact that this "one individual" was able to get the ball rolling for the rest of us. As for your interim chief, no one that I know of has anything against this guy and I would have to agree that he is doing a good job as far as I know. The problem is, if he purchased his BS from Hamilton which he did "allegedly", then he also lied about his qualifications. Not good and Not ethical. You know as well as the rest of us know that one bad act erases all good acts. It's unfortunate but the way I look at it is, if the person in question had to lie to get a job then the problem is him not anyone who you think is mad because he didn't get his way. I do want to address what you said about if DD were hired on that he would already be fired, I don't believe that and can't understand how you can make that guarentee. Also, if Syrkus and MB's "good old boys" had done to me what they did to this guy, let's just say things would be a hell of a lot worse for MB than they are now. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! Why shouldn't he be allowed to practice law enforcment but someone who actually lied and cheated to get his way into a police chiefs chair can? Answer that one. No offense Melbeacher but sometimes you say the same stupid crap just in a different way.
Geterdone,
You said, "1) No person in the state may claim, either orally or in writing, to possess an academic degree, as defined in s. 1005.02, or the title associated with said degree, unless the person has, in fact, been awarded said degree from an institution that is:
Question: If said person writes a letter to his or her hierarchy saying that said person realized that his or her degree may not be real does this letter release said person with the fake degree from responsibility for the BS BS degree?
Also, just because a degree is "preferred" and said person supplies a fake BS degree does the word "preferred" release said person from responsibility from the lie that the said person used to get to sit in a Police Chief's chair?
I already know the answer, I just want someone else to tell Melbeacher.
Freemelbeach, I didn't delete you because this one isn't my decision to make since it isn't me your blasting away at and slandering. Defamation is more like it. While I was reading your post I did have to laugh because your talking to one person as if that person were DD. Sorry, it cracks me up that your so damned sure of yourself. Your very wrong. Again, I will say that DD does not post on here nor does he even read our blog. He's just not interested in what we do. That Psych test your referred to? Here's something funny about that, he did pass, first of all, second of all, he even paid out of his own pocket for an independent Psych test which he also passed. David Syrkus said he didn't pass, who would be stupid enough to believe anything he has to say anyway?. You sound like someone who just got caught doing something wrong or maybe providing a fake degree yourself.
Jim Bursick,
Just a suggestion, you may want to check the law about a public records check. Those kids who were followed by your officers last week learned a lesson on public records requests. It was a good education for them but a really bad example you and your department set for our young citizens. Today a post came in from a very angry person and I have a sneaking suspicion that you gave him or her some information that only you would have known, i.e., a name of the person you had a conversation with when you were begging to know why YOUR file and you-know-who's file was requested. When the officers followed these kids I'm sure you were all disappointed they didn't drive right to DD's house. He isn't the one who asked for them. That is why you were contacted to set the record straight because of a phone call from someone telling this person about another fraudulent degree. And it's not for you to decide whether you like it or not what public records are used for. You should be careful with what you gossip about to your croanies. I wonder what's in your file that worries you so much?
Melbeacher,
I stand corrected. In answer to your question, I would have to say yes, DD would make a good officer if someone had the balls to hire him. I have no idea if he applied at MV. My question to you is, do you believe that someone who would stand on his own morals and do the right thing regardless of how the "right thing" came around, would uphold the law to the extent that he would be willing to risk his life for a meager 29K per year? If you say yes then you yourself would have to believe DD would make a good "law enforcment" officer. I've spoken to DD a couple of times and by no means know the guy well enough to call him a friend. What I have been able to obtain from conversations with him is that he was done wrong by someone with an inflated set of kahunas as were others and the guy needed to be stopped. Period. Is that so wrong that DD took MB's trash out? I would say he should've been thanked publicly and given the damned job. If the other officers have a hair up their butts about it then let's look at them and see what their afraid of. I understand that MB's finest followed some kids out of MB when they picked up some public records requested by someone other than DD. That was very unprofessional. So who cares what they think. Another thing you should think about is the fact that Syrkus went around town talking about DD's medical records by way of his Psych exam. That is agains Hippa regulations and the whole thing was a lie, defamation, what ever you want to label it the guy was wronged from the start. Why? Because he found out someone was doing something wrong and said something. When that person called Syrkus, who already told DD he had the job, and told Syrkus that DD was a problem Syrkus cooked up this "you failed the psych exam crap." And here we are today. No matter how you feel about DD you have to admit, the guy doesn't take kindly to having his name defamed, would you? I wouldn't! Not only would I have done the same thing DD did but I probably would have done a Lorraina Bobbit on him as well. That is why I wouldn't make a good officer. That jerk would have had to hide from me.
melbeacher, people live next door or close to people all the time and "Don't KNOW Them". You are gonna have to try harder than that. Hell, people are married for years and "Don't KNOW Each Other".
You sound a lot like the Circus, "he lives too close to a Commissioner for me to hire". What Golfbabe said seems to be overlooked all the time. Davie told DD that he was going to hire him. He kept him waiting for months while he hired someone else, time after time. It wasn't until DD met with Circus with the TM that his responce changed. Davie was mad that he was caught in another lie and changed his story.
Don't tell me that wouldn't have bothered you.
And also, MelVillage didn't give DD the evidence for the felonies. That was all on line in Palm Beach County.........get your stories straight.
Melbeacher, there may be a hiring process, even a good one in writing, but when it comes down to it, history tells us it is not working very well. I say fix it!
And one more question.......WHY DID THE TM NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BS BS (lol) WHEN THE INTERIM CHIEF WAS APPOINTED??????????
If this degree had been talked about up front, we might not be having this conversation.
And there you have it!
Mel beach, your town did something very wrong to DD, because DD went snooping into Syrkus' past. He went snooping when he pegged Syrkus because of his LYING, COWARD, SNEEKY, AND VINDICTIVE act against DD. I don't blame him! Look, if DD couldn't work there, then there is no way that Syrkus should have been working in MB. Now I ask you, do you believe Syrkus deserved what he got? I do! DD's acts were not that of a crazy psycho but that of a person who doesn't take any crap off of anyone else. DD wasn't hiding what he was doing, he did it right out in the open! What I want to know is how in the world did Syrkus pass his psych eval? This is a freak that actually pistol whipped his wife, stole money from her by way of quit claiming her share of their marital property out from under her. Not the act of a stable person! He also shot his gun indoors when he got pissed off down south. Again, not the act of a normal person. He ruled the town of MV by intimidation and being a conniving underhanded idiot. The act of an egotistical ahole. Got pissed at the Mayor's wife and ordered his stupid ass moron officer whose head was so far up Syrkus' butt to issue her a ticket or tickets for what ever he could manage to write up. Not the act of a normal person! He found out about one of the citizens who started a news letter about the problems in MV, how? I'll tell you how, he abused his authority by getting a subpoena to order AOL to release this senior citizen's name to him which he (Jyrkus) proceeded to make her life a living hell until she stopped publishing her little "woodpecker" newsletter. Again, not the act of a normal person. Dean Darling never displayed those kinds of personality flaws. Also, one other point I would like to make to you is that Psych evaluations are standardized for the most part and that means that not all normal people are going to pass with flying colors. Hell, I may have a bitch day, go in and fail the test, but the next day go in take the same test while I'm in a good mood and pass the stupid thing. For this reason, it's imperative to also check a person's background and actually get out there and talk to people who actually know the person. Syrkus never would have made it into that chief's seat if your hiring folk did their job. What's worse about that background check is that there are plenty of people who would have been glad to give the scoop on that lying, cheating, abusive, sick jerk. This has all been stated in this blog earlier on. Do you get it now?
In my opinion, your little town would be smart to hire DD. The only reason they won't is because half of the people saying no are afraid he may dig something up about them. Why would he, he doesn't give a crap about them he just wants a damned job. His certification expires soon so someone needs to show the guy a little compassion and right a wrong that was done to him by YOUR LITTLE TOWN, so it's up to your little town to right the wrong not Melbourne not Melbourne Village or any other PD in our county it's on Melbourne Beach to right this wrong! You're the ones who ruined him not us! We already helped your little town get rid of both crooked Syrkus and Burke, we can't do everything for your town. Suck it up and hire the guy already, he just may surprise you and we can all get back to business as usual.
Do DickTracey, Cagney, Lacey and myself need to come down there and pull every employee's file and whatever we find we just spew it all over this blog and do some mailers to the voters, I mean citizens, of Melbourne Beach and then let's see who they would rather have. DD or those with fake degrees, bankruptcies, or whatever is in their past. We've already proven we're good at what we do, haven't we? I say hire the guy already and fix what you broke.
Melbeacher, you said,
"you Said" He could have given DD a chance and pulled the community together Insted of punishing him." Are you saying The present Chief is Punishing DD for the " Circus Thing? That is not true. I do not think the Interm Chief Cares that Circus was Exposed. Thats why this " NEw Information seems kinda like a personal vendetta insted of a public service."
If this is true and the interim isn't punishing DD then hire him, prove it! I personally think the interim is afraid of Dean Darling. He doesn't need to be, Dean will show him the respect that an Officer shows his chief. Common Chief, prove you are Chief material make a freakin decision that will make all of this go away already.
Ok melbeacher, He let his superior know that someone was doing something very wrong. He also never called in sick and while he was there he worked. That much I do know. Did I miss anything? Oh, wait, you don't suppose that David Syrkus had anything to do with that fiasco do you?
I went to a cadet graduation some years ago and I heard a speech by a Chief of Palm Bay who basically said if you catch one of your fellow officers doing something wrong you are to tell on him. Now, from knowing how the Chicago, NY, and New Jersey Police are and the fact that they have an enormous amount of loyalty to each other, I was shocked as was my husband that this guy would stand up in front of the crowd and say something like that! I also believe DD wouldn’t be around very long up there, but we’re talking about Florida, Brevard County, home of a lot of back stabbing and ladder climbing and let’s not forget the fake degree buying. Some of the retired NYPD officers that I know scratch their heads at some of what goes on around this county. Don’t get me wrong, most of our law enforcement officers are respectable men and women and want to do the job but then there are others who you wouldn’t want to turn your back on. Syrkus is a prime example. I suppose that’s true in just about any occupation but it’s not supposed to be that way in law enforcement. These men and women have a tough job and the pay sucks so to want to be a Police Officer you would have to really want to wear that uniform.
I will check out the airport thing further and get back with you melbeacher.
Found this in a CBS News article..........found it interesting........maybe you will too
Want to be an aerospace engineer, accountant or geologist? Thanks to the Internet, you can buy any degree by logging on and signing up. And just like the spam says, "No books. No tests. No kidding!"
Diploma mills are selling phony degrees as fast as they can print them.
How do you get a degree from Hamilton? You start by filling out a form on a site that claims to be an independent referral service. But it really was set up to funnel business to Hamilton. You’ll then be offered dozens of degrees. If you’re accepted, and chances are good you will be, it can take as little as a week or two to get a diploma. Your main assignments are to write a short paper and a big check.
How long have you been a cop melbeacher?
Do't let the conversation be so painful to you. We have stated all along that crooks wear all kinds of clothing, even uniforms.
Last month Florida lost a Senator to the judicial system. The corrections department has been hammered at lately, FDLE lost it's Commish. I think you are having a hard time seeing the forrest for the trees. Lighten up.......
Hello everyone, I just posted the above post by lagoonrunner. The reason I put his comment on the blog is because I wanted you all to see what a moron this guy is. I would have done it sooner but until now the comments this idiot submitted couldn't be posted.
Lagoon Runner, do you have anything else to do besides act like the MB idiot. You now have the title of the village idiot. Nice Bike? What'a dufus.
lagoon runner said...
dick, It seems your just jealous that you cant be a cop. big baby... nice bike by the way
Since you, lagoon runner have no skills for reading the fine print, I'll spell it out for you. I AM NOT DEAN DARLING. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY DESIRE TO BE A COP AND DON'T LIKE THE MAJORITY I HAVE MET. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR AGAINST THE PROFESSION, RESPECT WHAT THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS WHEN DEPARTMENTS WERE STARTED, JUST WISH WE HAD MORE WITH MORE THAN AIR BETWEEN THEIR EARS. PERSONALLY, I FIND IT OFFENSIVE THAT YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR CONVERSATION, BUT CAN ONLY REPEAT THE SAME CRAP OVER AND OVER.
PS I DON'T OWN A BIKE. I PREFER A RIDE WITH REAL AIR (AIR CONDITIONING, THAT IS) AND A MUCH LONGER WHEEL BASE FOR COMFORT, PREFERABLY WITH A DRIVER AS WELL.
And to you melbeacher, I can't say it was intelligence of comments that made me ask, just a guess. So are you throwing out the part about being a past chief so we can ask more questions or are you the quiet type that doesn't want to talk about it?
As for looking at the airport file, no, I haven't. Where did you get your copy? Brevard had no problem taking DD'S money at police testing and he deserves a chance to prove himself, one way or another. Everyone has taken the lies the Circus told about Dean and don't want to face the truth or they themselves have things to hide and fear association with him. Look what has happened with the interim chief, he followed in the Circus path and here we are today laughing at his fake degree.
Did MB do an extensive background on him upon hire. Give me a break. How about Higgi, Burke, and the Circus. Municipal hiring sucks.
If all else is lost, we know that DD is a better detective than the Circus and he doesn't lie. He'll stand tall in front of the whole town and say what others are thinking, but afraid to say.
Then you said "sure, cops can go bad." LOL I have seen cops hired that had criminal records before being a cop. What does that make the man that hired them? And once they are cops and show the public that they are crooked, who is the public to call? Don't tell me, I already know, nobody, right, cause they are cops and cops protect each other. LOL
Hey, this is fun, I've been gone to long, no more vacation for me.
Now Melbeacher when have I given you a hard time when you didn't deserve it? But ok whatever. You've been on here since the beginning and yes, we've had our differences but I have to say I like it that your behaving yourself.
What the hell lagoonrunner, golfboy or who ever you are (Sybil) why don't you try acting like you have some sense instead of acting like Otis on Mayberry?
Melbeacher, I just thought of a point I want to make about that airport job and DD. First of all, MelVillage at one time had a wife beater and a petty thief on their department and let's not forget about the murderer back in the 70's and one Cocoa cop had a nice little gambling ring goin on. Now comes Melbourne Beach with their Wife beater, a perv, a crook, and a clerk who was a felon packing a notary stamp. Now I ask you since you already have the file on DD what could he possibly have done to be excluded from the likes of these people. Does it have something to do with his bike? Or do you all just not want anyone but thiefs, wifebeater, crooks and a dangerous notary? Answer this one for me.
mel, I get it now. You say that no one should stand up to a crooked chief. If a person is hired as a police officer, no matter the rank, we are to accept whatever they do and say. Sure, I get it now, it's that blue code of silence. Cover for the department at all costs.
Yes, I understand you now completely and your reasoning is the very thing that sickens me most. Your reasoning is why we have cops "that go bad", as you put it. As soon as they feel the protection of the uniform, they think they can do anything they want.
Troublemaker? A person who stands and tells the truth. You are nuts!
By the way melbacher, you were told that he stood at the meeting last night and told of the interim chief's fake degree from Hamilton University. It was a budget meeting and he was concerned for the increase in salary for a sergeant who might have been given an increase who didn't deserve the position and who had put something on his application for employment that should have been noted by the commission but was covered up by the town manager. He was concerned that a line officer would not step up and fill a position when the town needed him and still got an increase in salary.
Sure, I see where you are coming from. DD just needs to pay the taxes and keep his mouth shut. The state of Florida requires budget hearings, but the public should not speak, just pay up and let the town do with the money whatever it wants. Especially if you want to work for the town. Just yes sir all the employees and suck up. Well just maybe their are still a few citizens who feel their statements about the budget SHOULD BE of concern to the Commission and they frankly don't like Kissing Butt.
Where is it written that cops can do no wrong and only the public has to go by the rules. Come on melbeacher, tell us. As a prior chief, you should know all about these things. Where is it written that the public are all rats in a maize and have no voice. And if they speak, it makes them Troublemakers.
One more thing mel that just maybe you were not told about the meeting last night. Price has it in his head that if public record is requested, it means that someone is doing an investigation. LOL He went on to state that the town had not selected an investigator, and implied that information brought forth from public record without a request from the town was not welcome. What a bully he is, should we all bow to Price at the next election? He seems to be so closed minded, he doesn't represent the people at all. Or maybe it is just some of the people. Had one of the Commissioners have brought out the same info, would Price have objected so much. I say yes, I say he kisses butt and represents the employees over the towns people.
Oh, and by the way, melbeacher, you should attend more meetings, I find them a real hoot myself. Our taxes at work. The question remains, Who are our taxes really for, The Employees or the PEOPLE?
Melbeacher, when you say "attacked," are you talking physical or what? I really don't think that DD really expects to be invited to work for MB but at the same time I think you may be over stating your claims. You said you already have his employment records from the airport, if this is true then give us some specifics instead of just saying he attacked his employer.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that from the little I know of DD he's been the one who has been bullied not the other way around. Your city employee's are the ones who started this with him and he is standing up for himself. I'll also say that your wrong about him being a trouble maker, that's not it from my observation of him. He does seem a little anal about doing the right thing, but I wouldn't call someone like him a trouble maker. Hey, if David Syrkus weren't such an ahole then there wouldn't have been anything to find on him, right?
If I were the interim chief, I would hire him, right the wrong, and wait and see how he does during probation. I think that DD would be one of the ones you wouldn't have to keep watch over because he would do everything by the book, that's what I get from the few conversations I've had with him. One over the phone and 2 in person. If he steps out of line he's fired and it's done. Interim Chief Duncan from what I know of him is a pretty nice guy he just needs to stop doing what his puppet masters are telling him and think for himself. Interims are allowed to do that right? Now, on the other hand, after last nights meeting I doubt that would happen. I heard the cat got let out of the bag about someones fake degree.
Besides all of that, the original reason for this blog wasn't to get into MB's politics rather it was to get that lying thieving crook and his side kick Pat Burke out of the business. Now those two didn't belong working in the capacity of their jobs and no one can dispute that fact. They were like having 20 DD's breathing down your neck. Anyway, let us know about that file you have on DD. Thanks.
geterdone, that was a great post! Melbeacher, what about that? Did you know the person requesting those records was harrassed like that? Probably not, your too worried about DD. MB's city hall is full of back stabbing uneducated wannabees who have no idea how to run a meeting.
Hey Golf, good morning, if they read the file with an open mind, they will find years of service and two suspensions for standing up and reporting corruption from within...all allegations were investigated and no wrong doing on DD's part. The "good ole boys" doing what they do best and protecting themselves. The "shoot the messenger syndrome" if you will. The "don't rock the boat" and report crime amongst the employees.
When all is said and done, we can look at the Florida Law concerning "Whistleblowers" and laugh because we know that there will always be those that think they are above the law and can do whatever they want.
Well folks, it takes all kinds to make a world and I surely do hope we continue to have those like DD that will stand up for those who can't or won't for fear of being labled a "Troublemaker".
MelBeach has been very open in it's rulings of late. Request public record and you can lose your job. Request public record and you can be followed by town employees. This is a disgrace and I can only hope that the upcoming election gets this changed.
Today newspaper talked about a County Commissioner who was voted out by the people when he decided not to listen to people.
Don't think it couldn't happen in MelBeach.
As for making the chief's position an elected one, I don't think so. I would much rather leave that to the TM. It is his job! It would be better, I think for the citizens if the Commission had more control over the TM. It appears to me that this has been a problem for some time now and I eagerly await the Commission's fixing the problem.
As for the so called endorsements made at the meeting last night by the Mayor for the upcoming election, I say it was in poor taste. Not against the Mayor endorsing anyone, but not on mike at a Town meeting.
As for Walter's giving up his retirement and stepping back into the Chief position, maybe someone should ask him first before we speculate. As to what the TM would say or do, who knows, he hasn't said much so far, right or wrong, not that I have heard, other than he wants more and more money for a job he has never held before.
Isn't he the same fellow that said he knew all about public record law when appling for this job?
Has he become another employee that thinks he is above the law?
Is he going to council or reprimand employees for hindering public record or will he remain quiet on this issue also?
geterdone, I respect your imput, but disagree with the nonindorsement issue. The implication of talking about candidates, especially those not present, good, bad, or indifferent, should not take place at a Town Meeting. My view and you don't have to agree.
I do agree that the candidates should have at least attended some of the budget hearings and personally believe that all Commissioners should have to know the budget backwards and forwards, so that they can have intelligent conversation with any citizen about it. Unfortunately, we don't get that and yet they,The Commission get to vote on the budget. Kinda sad, don't you think. Be glad when things are run to suit the people again.........
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